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Monday, October 13, 2008

Up Date On Noose Man's Blog

Just visited the The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative blog where the Obama/Noose post was originally posted. Found the comments section discussion of his removing the post rather interesting, and am sharing it below. Paleo-Conservative still justifies as tit for tat, in his words, "I was simply making a point and doing exactly what the left is doing to Sarah Palin." He goes further to state, "I removed it because of the Cyber-Lynching that was going on by the Liberal Blogsophere." This man has a keen talent for using racially charged words! If you are over 40 and hear the word Lynching, what visual image comes to your mind? As I pointed out earlier today, this man SHOWS NO REMORSE, but instead seems to have taken the picture down out of fear, fear of what could happen if in fact he did cross a line that puts him in legal hot water with the authorities.
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Well, it is gone. I’ll tell you why. The point of the posting was being lost and the post itself was becoming the story. Which I never wanted to happen.

The point is, I made the far left have a knee jerk reaction. I also gave them something to talk about.

Again, as I stated in the actual posting itself, I never, ever wished any harm come to Obama, at all. I was simply making a point and doing exactly what the left is doing to Sarah Palin.

That is all, nothing more to see, move along…

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11 Comments on “If you came looking for the “Enough!” posting”

  1. #1 The very late night Music Express Presents……..Ted Nugent Political Byline
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 2:33 am

    [...] all the crazy shit that’s been happening around here today. Kind of [...]

  2. #2 Czolgosz
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 7:58 am

    Get used to this. Once Obama is elected, and his “CrimeThink” citizen vigilante squads hit the streets, the P.C. 90s will seem like the good old days!

  3. #3 Sherri
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 8:33 am

    Thank you for removing that post. I hope someday we can all have a decent conversation about our ideas and quit calling each other names and overreacting to every little thing. It doesn’t do any good. Like I said, I’m a liberal, but no damn Commie, and I hate the PC shit as much as you. But I’m an American and there’s some things supporters are doing on both sides that isn’t good for the country. That’s what I want to talk about–what’s good for the country. Not who got the worst/best/last “shot” in. You don’t have to post this comment, just know I send my thanks for a good deed.

  4. #4 The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Sherri,

    I removed it because of the Cyber-Lynching that was going on by the Liberal Blogsophere.

    I am beginning to see that we do live in a fascist state.

  5. #5 Aaron
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    I find cowardly behavior annoying. Understandable, but annoying. You should not have taken it down. I can respect an unapologetically bigoted stance . I don’t agree, but I can respect you take your stand and don’t back down. Its a free country, and you’re allowed to say it. So own your stuff.

    But what do you do? You take it down, because you didn’t have the courage of your conviction. You KNEW when you posted the image that its impact is fueled by the history of racist unjust lynching murders of blacks in America. You understand the implicit threat in the imagery. You knew this. But you were happy to trade on that to make some sort of point, to provoke a “knee jerk” reaction, as though this were clever, rather than merely obvious.

    Your point in doing it presumably was that the Left is attacking Palin in similar heinous fashion. And your first instinct in response is to suggest Obama be lynched? At BEST that makes you equally as asinine as those on the left you protest. It certainly doesn’t make you any better. You rail against the stricture of PC think , but your imagery here is not politically incorrect. Its racist. I’m NOT saying that YOU are a racist. I AM saying that you were more than willing to trade on overtly and obvious racist threat imagery to make a point. If you’re a decent human being that ought to bother you that you thought that was okay.

    I imagine in the course of your daily life there may be a variety of black people you come into contact in passing. Co-workers, waitress at the local diner, security guard at a building downtown, other parents at your kid’s school, a neighbor kid.

    Do you think if you showed that to them and said you were just trying to make a point that it would go over okay? Do you think they might look at you different after that? Do you find it hard to believe that the average black person you showed that image to and told them you made it might immediately think ” If he would suggest lynching Obama, he would suggest lynching me too”.

    Well, it is gone. I’ll tell you why. The point of the posting was being lost and the post itself was becoming the story. Which I never wanted to happen.

    Really? I don’t believe that. You KNEW you were trading on racist threat imagery. You used that imagery ON PURPOSE. You thought about it and chose to use it. Its a slick looking graphic, you put some time and effort into it, worked on it to get it just right. You had to marinate with the imagery a bit. Obama looks positively sinister in the photo, so you either retouched it or spent some time really looking for a photo that would give you that look.

    The point was lost? Really? You run a cool looking website, advertisers and everything, way more popular than mine, so you are a smart guy. Did you really think that people would see this imagery and glean some sophisticated intellectual point from it, instead of the racist threat? I believe you are a smart guy, so I don’t really think you believed that when you made it. Given the slick looking end product, I think you eagerly leaped at the opportunity to use this imagery and make it as high impact as you could.

    Whats that about? I mean, I’m likely to be totally dismissed by you and perhaps your readers, but before you do, humor me and just sit with that question for a sec. It did not bother you to trade on this racist imagery, you worked hard to make it shocking and scary and threatening and YOU WERE COOL WITH THAT. I’ll bet if I sat down and had a beer with you, you’re a decent enough guy. So how come this was cool with you?

    Now you’ve taken it down. Why? Because more people seem to rebuke you for the obvious racist threat of the imagery you purposely used than praised you for the political point you were trying to make? Where is the courage of your convictions? You had the stones to put it up and you knew what it was when you did it.

    It would have been a point in your favor if you got some heat on this, you regretted going this route and therefore took it down. That would mean your decency won out.

    Doesn’t seem that way from this post though. This post makes you sound cowardly because you took some heat for the graphic that you created on purpose to upset people. You got what you wanted, but now you don’t want it, because you don’t like the downside that came with it (boycott threats, being called racist and so on) because you’re really a good guy.

    If you really think you had a legit point to make, put the post back up and defend your position rather than complain about the injustice of PC think. Own it and everything that comes with it.

  6. #6 The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:15 am

    Well, Aaron. I thank you for you comments. I guess you could say that I am owning it at this point. The secret service has not shown up. But I do have the knot in my stomach. I do wish now that I had stay out of the fray. But I guess that’s no longer an issue.

    I mainly pulled it, because the point was lost and the picture was becoming the story.

    For what it is worth, I am NOT, nor have I ever been a racist. I have zero against Obama. I just don’t agree with his politics.

    Again, thanks for the comments. Man, I now wish I’d just stay out of the fray… :(

  7. #7 Aaron
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:27 am

    The service probably won’t come. You probably got enough free speech cover. If they do, they’ll probably just talk to you stern. Might get in a database or something like that which kinda sucks, but should not really be an inconvenience. They deal with this enough to know the difference between this and somebody trying to do some harm. I actually think you have a better free speech defense if you leave it up though and let them compel you to take it down. I dunno, ask your lawyer.

    Tone wise, You sound like that kid who hacked Palin’s email. You probably have not risked 5 years in jail though. Too bad about the crap you’re getting, but you went looking for a reaction. What can I say?

  8. #8 The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:33 am

    I actually think you have a better free speech defense if you leave it up though and let them compel you to take it down. I dunno, ask your lawyer.

    Ha! I might be into a good number of things. But leaving something up, that’s in a legal gray area just to piss off the Government is NOT one of them. I like my freedom.

    I’m not much into taunting uncle Sam. That might be someone else’s bag, but not mine! :D

  9. #9 The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Also….

    I dunno, ask your lawyer.

    I would, but I don’t have one. Shit, I couldn’t even afford one. Not having a job since 2005, does have it’s downside.

  10. #10 Skunkworks
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    “Not having a job since 2005, does have it’s downside.”

    Why have you been unemployed for three years?

  11. #11 The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative
    on Oct 13th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    The short version is, I tried a career change, and that didn’t work out. Got a job that my cousins told me about had to quit because it was making me physically sick. This was long before I started blogging.

The Noose Man, The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative Seriously Has No Clue

Was up late last night, as the Obama/Noose posting that I found and put up here on Washington Scandal really upset me. Slept in, and woke up an hour ago, and after pouring my morning coffee checked in on my blog...the traffic this story has generated is astounding, and encouraging...it is reassuring to know that people on both sides of the political slash are outraged, that people agree there are lines in the sand that should never be crossed. Sadly, The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative doesn't have a clue. I visited his site this morning hoping to perhaps find some sense of remorse from him, perhaps a public apology for what he'd posted in his anger and hate. Instead, he seems pleased that he made Gawker.com and that, from his perspective, they reported his side of the story correctly.

Wow I Actually made gawker.com"

I Actually made gawker.com"

The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative

Hey, at least they reported
the story correctly. I give them that.

Wow, make a little political
statement and mock the left and their race baiting and become the drive-by
media’s next big thing.

I liked being a unknown better


There is, from my perspective no side to his story. I will be the first to admit that I am sometimes not politically correct, that I purposely push that envelop in the hopes of getting a rise out of people, of making them think...that said, like yelling fire in a theatre, there are lines that we as a civilized society should not cross. Paleo Conservative did not just cross a line, he poured gasoline on it and lit the match.

There is no other symbol more representative than the noose for racism and bigotry other than perhaps the white sheets of the Klu Lkux Klan. The noose has a long sorrowful history in race relations that has intertwined itself into our American history...it is impossible to believe that Paleo Conservative was unaware of that history. It has not been that long ago that Racial Segregation was a part of every day America. At 53 I grew up with it in small town America, watched the Equal Rights movement, saw American begin to address its own hatreds and change. Apparently we as a nation still have a long way to go in healing old wounds if the Paleo Conservative's of America think nothing of creating a picture of Obama with a noose beside him, see their own actions no differently than someone posting a picture of a Sarah Palin blow up doll. One example might be distasteful, even politically incorrect, but the other is hate mongering, deliberately created to incite anger and hate of another based on the color of their skin, designed to flame the passions of those who cling to their racist ways. There is a difference between Lampooning someone that makes herself an easy target (as does Sarah Palin), and using known symbols of hate and racism in making your political points and views known to a larger audience.

Political ByLine's Hate Crime Posting Still Up!

Been doing some more checking on the Obama/Noose creation, and it seems that the posting is still up where it was originally posted (http://www.politicalbyline.com/2008/10/12/enough/) and even worse than still being up, the poster IS PROUD of it! As to some of his other rantings, yes the Secret Service has been notified about the creation...what if anything they will do other than be AWARE OF IT is, and may remain unknown. What is absolutely clear, is that Senator McCain, if he has any honor at all, will rebuke the post, the picture and its creator in a very PUBLIC FASHION. For sake of preserving evidence, the entire post from his site with his updates is posted below: Note his back up blog http://pbblogbackup.blogspot.com/ FAST BREAKING NEWS ON THIS STORY...must have gotten to the post just before the Secret Service TOAR IT DOWN:
Oops! Page Not Found (Error 404)
Oops... sorry! For one reason or another the page you are looking for could not be found and its probably not your fault. It might be:
A mis-typed URL
An out-of-date or a faulty referral from another site
Or an old page that has been deleted or moved
You could maybe visit the Home Page to start fresh or try the search.

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I have stood silently and have tried to keep out of this foray as much as I possibly could.

But I cannot any longer. It seems that there are some on the left, who seem to think that it is cute to make graphics about punching Sarah Palin in the Mouth. (Hat Tip to Michelle)

It also seems that some think it is cute to make bumper stickers saying, “Abort Sarah Palin”.

On the other hand, I did scold John McCain a bit for whipping his crowds up in to the frenzy and then confronted with the more ugly aspects of that frenzy, he sought to quell it.

However, it seems that there are those on the left, who want to turn this into an ugly election about race. I say, let us give them what they want. Seeing Obama’s Black friends are trying to compare John McCain to a highly racist Alabama Governor from the 1960’s.

They want racism? It does seem that way. Since the left wants to make nasty drawings of violence towards women, I figure it is only fair to do this.

I originally made this graphic a while back when this issue raised it’s ugly head before, but I quickly pulled it, because I felt I would be adding to the poison of the situation. But it has become clear that the left is not interested in running an honorable campaign, so, I think it is time to fight fire, with fire.

Here it is, in all it’s nasty glory, taking every nuance to the next level:

obamasolution

(Cross Posted @ Say Anything) Well it was, until the coward pulled it. Eh, Screw ‘em, I’ll fight the battle alone, as always.

Others:
Power Line, National Review, Flopping Aces, PrestoPundit, This ain’t Hell …, Wake up America, and Gateway Pundit, Ed Driscoll.com

Update: It seems that a few Liberals have spotted this posting and one even wants to organize to get my ads pulled. Good luck with that! Anyhow, any liberal who doesn’t get it, is just terminally stupid. I suppose this sort of graphics here are fine:

Normal people would say no. But we’re dealing with Communist Liberals here and not normal people. So, to those who want to whine, I’m just fighting fire with fire here and giving these Anti-American, God Hating, Baby Killing, Fascist bastards a dose of their own medicine.

Update #2: Seems that my little posting is making the rounds. Well, before some hyperventilating tool calls the secret service or in case they’ve already done so. There was never, ever, implied in that graphic, a threat of ANY SORT, at all. end of story. I wish senator Barack Obama no harm whatsoever. I wish, however, that he would try to convey to his followers that race baiting is just as bad as racism itself. further more, I wish he would tell his followers to stop posting idiotic graphics about Sarah Palin. I simply doing what the left is doing to Sarah Plain. If the secret service needs to speak with me, I will more than happy to talk with them at anytime.

Update #3: As for the accusations of racism, that’s funny. I simply spoke the truth. The truth is that the left is stoking the fires of racism in this election and I gave them what they wanted.

Update #4: Well, it’s now on DailyKOS and I suppose I will be the next drive-by media story. That’s fine. Because the point is being missed by the Left totally, which really is not a big shock to me. I will say this, I do not intend to pull this posting, at all. I’m proud of it, that I was able to make the Left Liberals have a knee-jerk reaction. I will go to jail before I pull it. There is a thing called the First Amendment to the constitution and I will go to jail before I will have my first admendment rights taken fro me. I will not be intimidated by anyone, at all.

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http://www.amateureconomists.com/

http://zerosheep.com/

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/

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http://www.freedomfolks.com/

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/

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http://proteinwisdom.com/

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http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/index.php/

http://www.tammisworld.com/

http://americanprincessblog.com/

http://www.tom-hanna.org/

Centrist Blogs:

http://donklephant.com/

http://themoderatevoice.com/

Left Wing Blogs that I can stand to read:

http://www.deanesmay.com/

http://www.balloon-juice.com/

http://moderateleft.com/

Independent Political Party Blogs:

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/